Is your church redundant?

Andy Rau

March 6, 2008

This sure helps make the case for the plurality of pastors/elders we see in the NT.

March 6, 2008

Andy,<br><br>Thanks for featuring and expanding my post on making oneself redundant in the church. We can't have egos on this issue. You look at the underground church in China and their entire structure--and subsequent effectiveness--comes from making their leaders redundant and ensuring that everyone is discipled to the point of being able to take over should need be.<br><br>We need to learn this sooner rather than later.

March 7, 2008

Dan is a breath of fresh air. The important thing is to enable the body of Christ where EVERY body part is truly necessary. Great blogsite too. I thought I was the only calvinist pentecostal.

March 7, 2008

The church I attend here in SoCal is already planning and praying for the senior pastor replacement process... in 2018. The service I attend at my church has seen six different speakers in six different weeks, and all of them from within the church (as opposed to being "hired guns" from the outside). (We are currently in between preachers in the service I attend.) All of that said, when the previous preacher left the service I attend, a number of people threw fits. "What are we going to do?" "I don't like this service much anymore." And so on... so it definitely happens.<br><br>I've seen it happen FAR more in Latin America than in the US. I've witnessed the "cult of personality" thing there rip apart church after church, as people want so desperately to follow someone (other than Christ). It's classic: Boy builds following, Following loves Boy, Boy gets a big head and bilks the church out of $$/runs off with another man's wife/spiritually abuses the congregation to turn them against each other and satiate his own need for power. Following eventually consumes itself, and Boy starts a new following.<br><br>What's missing is accountability. It's not just someone who can step in when something goes wrong — it's someone who can help keep things from going wrong. Of course, this doesn't address death or plain ol' human nature, since something will ALWAYS go wrong, no matter how vigilant we are. However, I think having strong leaders serving alongside each other definitely provides a better chance to avoid the scandals and problems before they happen, even as they provide a better chance to survive them after they do.

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