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Sin and raw cookie dough

Johnathan Kana

Johnathan Kana
July 14, 2016

Why I'm making a spiritual discipline out of kicking the cookie dough habit.

Herb Kutscha
July 14, 2016

You could heat your flour at 250 for a while and use egg substitute. Might still be sinfully good though.

Bill Wald
July 14, 2016

Is there anything that Americans are not taught to fear?

Phil
July 14, 2016

I had a vision of a cookie sheet coming down from heaven, and on it were cookies, cooked and uncooked, chocolate chip and with nuts. And behold, a voice was heard saying, "Take and Eat." And I said, "You don't have to tell me twice!"

Doug Vande Griend
July 14, 2016

No there isn't Bill. Worse, Americans are often told to fear that which they shouldn't and embrace that which they shouldn't. Good example of that these days is the federal government in the last half of the 1900's and beyond (along with the American Heart and Diabetes Associations of all things) telling the US population to cut down on red meat and saturated fats and get their calories from more carbohydrates instead. This advice was supposed to cut down on heart problems. Whoops, it had the opposite effect and so now we have a carb induced obesity problem and consequently more, and fewer, heart problems. In fact, the advice should have been the opposite.

Which, of course, is among the (more than a few) reasons I never take the US government, nor large organizations, at their word. Their bigness and their ability to use massive amounts of money simply doesn't guarantee the accuracy of their "advice" -- or even information.

JKana
July 15, 2016

In Reply to Herb Kutscha (comment #28607)
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I hadn't heard that one before, Herb...at least not about the flour. One of the things I might have explored in a longer essay to extend the metaphor a bit is the fact that cookie dough ice cream is still on the list of "safe" foods because manufacturers are already required by the FDA in those cases to use pasteurized eggs and treated flour. Ben & Jerry's--who has the claim on inventing the flavor--talks about how their cookie dough was engineered by their supplier specifically to stay soft and gooey during freezing, so that it would emulate homemade cookie dough ice cream (which the FDA says is "not safe"). In other words...a "safe" way to enjoy an "unsafe" product.

Whether the risk of eating cookie dough is as bad as the FDA makes out or not, whether the cynics are right about it being alarmist or not, I do find it very interesting how our first instinct isn't to just stop eating it. It's to try finding a workaround so we can keep having the things we weren't supposed to have in the first place. Sometimes we do that with sin, too--find some way to intellectualize, rationalize, or legalize our way out of the consequences for doing something that, at the heart of things, we know isn't good for us.

Also, not demeaning "clean" cookie dough. I'm hopelessly addicted to cookie dough ice cream. But an interesting extension of the analogy, right?

D
July 16, 2016

I love the metaphor you used. Of course it has nothing to do with cookies and everything with a deeper spiritual awareness of the condition of your own soul. It it a type of fasting that causes one to take time to examine the little indulgences we think we need and are ok, but really detract us from growing in the likeness of Christ. Great way of looking at it. It still will be tough to refrain from stealing a finger full of cookie dough.

Bill Wald
July 16, 2016

We continually rationalize and legalize our way out of the consequences of clear statements in the Bible text. One food example is rationalizing that the dietary regulations were only health measures. This trivializes the entire Torah worship system.

Jessica Kantrowitz
November 24, 2017

Phil, that's funny.

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