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Wrestling with redemption

Josh Larsen

Nbierma
May 7, 2009

good points. The reviews I've seen say that The Wrestler usefully illuminates human brokenness, while Observe and Report cheaply celebrates it.

David Murdoch
May 7, 2009

It's often possible to interpret a movie or form of art according to a christian theme, which wasn't necessarily intended by the artist or producer. It doesn't have to be about redemption or even christianity for that to be true. I haven't seen this movie, but on the basis of what the blogger has written, one could for example think about what St Paul wrote in 1 Corinthians 13 when he said that even if you had faith to move mountains, etc.... and you have not love, it is nothing. Similarly, if you achieved something in your wrestling career and you did not find true redemption to the love of God, you have gained nothing.<br><br>God Bless,

alvin_tsf
May 7, 2009

some movies (very few, i think) deal honestly with the fallen human condition in very vivid ways which i think we christians should see. but after watching these films, the evaluation points suggested in the post is a great guide in not only guarding our hearts but also in moving us towards a better understanding of ourselves as depraved and the need to share the grace to others that are depicted in the film. often, as christians, we have been so insulated with the reality of our still-present brokeness that we are quick to judge . <br><br>"Less judgmental and more open to the pain of a person who is far, far outside of my comfort zone"<br><br>having this kind of a reaction to a film like "the wrestler" really makes us more aware of the amazing grace of God. i believe that is not only a good thing, but a sanctifying experience.<br><br>thanks for a great post!<br><br>a blessed day to everyone

Dan
May 8, 2009

I don't know - seems pointless to make such an unredemptive film to me - that junk is already ALL AROUND us. I can learn about tragedy and hopelessness and resignation from whoever I talk to. Its not that its not an important lesson, its that many of us are content being "empathetic toward damaged people" from afar and we are cowards in really loving our neighbors. Better to learn that lesson in the real world. In art and literature I want to see something rarer and something beautiful - something redemptive.<br><br>

Againali
May 8, 2009

"...Less judgmental and more open to the pain of a person who is far, far outside of my comfort zone"<br><br>If only more congregations meditated on this one simple--but profound--statement. I admire your true capacity for empathy. I'm pretty sure Jesus practiced that sort of empathy on a daily basis, being that he was the Son of God...and therefore was so far, far above even the best of us.

Cory Maxwell-Coghlan
May 9, 2009

Great post. This was a beautiful film. I enjoyed it purely BECAUSE OF the fact that the character failed to achieve redemption by film’s end. Why are movies only worth watching if they have a redemptive character? Is this a true reflection of reality? If you only want to watch films that have redemptive characters, then you prefer fantasy to reality. <br><br>I'm sick and tired of Hollywood creating films that always have a happy ending. They sell because we live vicariously through the fictitious characters of unrealistic stories while we go back to lives that are full of pain, hurt and heartache. <br><br>I applaud "The Wrestler" because it deals with this pain and hurt. It deals with issues of broken dreams, family breakdown, financial hardship. There isn't a happy ending, but the truth is, for most people on this planet, there isn't.<br><br>This film made me feel deeply burdened by the reality of pain in our world and the deep longing for redemption. It motivated me to continue to share the redemptive love of Christ to a broken, painful, hopeless world. <br><br>"Modern society prefers the picture to the object, the counterfeit to the authentic; the reproduction of reality to reality itself; what appears, to what is really there. Delusion is its sanctity, truth is its profanity" - Ludwig Feuerbach

Steven Koster
May 11, 2009

I am less interested in the main character finding redemption in a happy ending than I am in understanding how the story itself conceives of redemption. <br><br>I'm not looking for a happy ending certainly. But I contend that nearly all films resolve a central conflict in the end. That's the nature of narrative. <br><br>So what I want to know is how does the film present conflict and brokenness, and how does the film fix it? Through personal will power? the application of violence? through romantic love? through personal sacrifice? <br><br>I think that tells us more about the spiritual world-view of a film than the happiness od endings, likability of characters, or checklist of naughties. <br>

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